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Red Wine Helps Blood Glucose Levels
http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/549-...
clipped by calcrz Apr 22, 2009
blood glucose diabetic discussions insulin red wine resultsNotes by calcrz: In the book, "Diabetes the First Year," it said if you are not on insulin that a 1/2 glass of red wine with your meal will keep your blood glucose down.
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by Sheryl
July 22, 2008 11:32 AM
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butterfly_8butterfly_8 replied July 22, 2008 1:09 PM [+]butterfly_8 replied July 22, 2008 1:09 PM [-]
I would love to have wine with my dinner on special occasions such as holidays. I would feel sort of normal again. But I am afraid to mix alcohol with meds. I can't wait to see how the group deals with this.
Sheryl replied July 22, 2008 1:22 PM [-]
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I also did a search on the web about red wine and diabetes and it's actually being studied with a postitive outcome. Of course they are trying to find a 'pill' to give us instead of a glass of wine.
In one study the 'red wine' worked 100% in reducing BG, teas are also being tested but were in a much lower effective percentile bracket.
I'm curious to see what others think about this as well.
I just know that I am elated with the results I'm getting.
BTW the book said that unless you are on insulin it is safe to drink the 1/2 glass of wine. AND most importantly talk to your doctor about it.
azmistyazmisty replied July 22, 2008 1:34 PM [-]
Hi Sheryl:
That is wonderful the results that you are getting with the red wine. Of course in the general public it has been well established the benefits of small amts of red wine.
My Dad made his own red wine that he only drank with meals and he lived to be 92 and pretty healthy at that.
I am curious if they gave any explanation why people using insulin should not have wine since I have never heard that before.
Thanks.....Misty
Sheryl replied July 22, 2008 1:53 PM [-]
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Always heard red wine had benefits to your heart.
I am quoting the book:
"Alcohol is neither a fat, a protein nor a carbohydrate, but it does contain 7 cal/g. If you're following an exchange diet alcohol is usually counted as a fat.
People use to say that anyone with diabetes should never drink alcohol. This is because alcohol can lower BG levels, and if you are taking insulin or Sulfonylureas, that can make your BG level go to low, the alcohol can increase the effect and paralyze the mechanisms that normally bring the BG level back to normal. However is you are not taking these drugs, small amounts of alcohol such as a small glass of red wine with a meal may help moderate the BG raising effects of the meal as well as possibly having heart-protecting actions. Note that the important word here is 'small'. Excessive drinking is not a good idea when you have diabetes of any kind."
Hope this helped you.
cleo wilson replied July 26, 2008 11:00 AM [+]cleo wilson replied July 26, 2008 11:00 AM [-]
Hi,i want to know which am i 1 or 2 i take pills, thanks and my doctor said it is ok if i have a glass wine (RED)
Gabby replied July 26, 2008 11:09 AM [-]
You should ask your doctor. Typically type 2 does not require insulin, but that is not always the case. Your doctor will know, and you should know so you know how to work with your disease best. There is so much I am learning about type 2, but I know very little about how type 1 works. And they are different.
BarryE
GabbyGabby replied July 22, 2008 5:11 PM [-]
In the Glycemic Index it mentions that consuming alcahol (or vinegar) with a meal helps our BG. The vinegar is working for me some, maybe I need to give this a try. Is it only Red wine or will a blush work?
Sheryl replied July 22, 2008 5:59 PM [-]
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Gabby, I tried the vinegar with little noticable results. The wine should be red. In reading about this on the net the studies they are doing on this said the redder the wine the better.??...
I am using a merlot. Perhaps not the deepest red but red. The Italians drink red wine and have good health, perhaps a dark, red italian wine would be a good choice.
Let me know if you do this and how it works for you.
Gabby replied July 23, 2008 4:19 AM [-]
I will have to pick that up and give it a try. I am not a big wine drinker, so it will be interesting. It is at just one meal a day or more? For example, should I drink 2 oz at lunch and 2 oz at dinner or just 4 oz at dinner? Maybe what I should be doing is drinking red wind vinegar!! LOL
Sheryl replied July 23, 2008 9:19 AM [-]
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Gabby,
Don't know how to answer that. I only drink it with my dinner. Don't think I could manage it with breakfast. Even for me, just that one glass has made my morning fasting readings better. They have been around 110 verus 125-130.
Perhaps you could try the wine with your dinner and stay with the vinegar/red wine vinegar for the other meals??
If I understand it, it would be 'okay' to have the dark red wine with each meal if you handle it. What I do is take little sips of the wine in between bites so that it's finished when I'm done eating.
I think if you get good results with the red wine you'll know what you want to do. Keep me posted on how this works for you. Maybe we can be on to something, LOL
Gabby replied July 23, 2008 12:30 PM [-]
You bet. I know I sound like a broken record, but the more we experiment, the more we learn, the more we share, the more we help. One day, it may lead to the combination that works for everyone. One day....
Sheryl replied July 23, 2008 4:33 PM [-]
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Wouldn't that be wonderful...
Not everything works the same for everyone but I think everything within reason is worth a try!
As you can see by LeighG's response she seems to be getting good readings and her Dr's blessing...
Let me know how it works when you have your first glass of red wine. Found out today by talking to someone at the store that the Burgandy is the deepest of the red wines. Ended up buying one as the merlot I'm using is a light red.
LeighGLeighG replied July 23, 2008 3:41 PM [-]
when i asked my docter about the whole drinking thing he told me the only thing he says i should drink is red wine.he told me it would be ok to have a glass or two with dinner not everday but when i am out on whenever yea know.and also good for the heart he was saying.so i have not drank since i found out but now since i asked i have some wine when i am hanging oput or going out to dinner and so on and my numbers were good later.
butterfly_8 replied July 24, 2008 4:54 PM [+]butterfly_8 replied July 24, 2008 4:54 PM [-]
This is indeed a break through for me. I have not had any wine since I was diagnosed3 years ago. I just went to High School reunion and I would have fely wonderful if I could have had a glass of wine with dinner like everyone else.
Sheryl replied July 24, 2008 6:14 PM [-]
Sorry to hear you didn't have a glass of wine at your reunion. Do you intend to give it a try? I am waiting for Gabby's results which I hope are as good as mine have been.
Go buy yourself a bottle and have a glass with your next meal...
Gosh I feel like a 'wine' pusher!!
butterfly_8 replied July 25, 2008 7:17 PM [+]butterfly_8 replied July 25, 2008 7:17 PM [-]
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I am going to make a special deal out of this. I am going to make a special trip to find the perfect wine. I think I will even look for the perfect glass. I will make it special and have a glass on special occasions..lol
GabbyGabby replied July 24, 2008 5:08 PM [-]
Okay, I just returned from the grocer and boy am I ready to party!!
I picked up 4 bottles of different types of reds to see which one I like the most or dislike the least. LOL
I have Merlot, Shiraz, Cabernet Sauvignon, and Shiraz-Cabernet all from [yellow tail] which I found that I like when I was in Australia.
I was told to let them breathe for at least 10 minutes after pouring so tomorrow I start the experiment. I will let you know what I find out. I am starting with the Shiraz 4oz at dinner.
Cheers!
Sheryl replied July 24, 2008 6:11 PM [-]
Gabby, sounds like your ready to take on the challenge of trying something out of the box. I can't wait to hear how you did with it.
If what that book stated, red wine in fact does lower BG what a nice 'choice' it thows in the mix. Our lives have become so food boring and complicated that the wine should ad a little spice and it won't be so complicated after the wine! LOL....
azmisty replied July 25, 2008 1:49 PM [-]
Hey Gabby....party on...sounds like a great experiment!!!
Misty
Sheryl replied July 25, 2008 6:34 PM [-]
Gabby, haven't heard how it went with the wine? Did it go okay or have you not tried it yet?
I keep watching for an update.
Sheryl
Gabby replied July 25, 2008 7:21 PM [-]
Tonight was my first night to try it, and tomorrow will be my first test. I don't expect it will be immediate, but I can always hope.
One thing is for sure....it makes me sweat!!! (Can you tell I don't drink much?)
Sheryl replied July 25, 2008 8:51 PM [-]
Do you test after you eat? That's when I see my immediate results.
It has taken a few days for me to see the morning results also lower. Been about 110 in the morning.
Tonight I ate mexican, a tostida, beans, a few bites of rice and some tortilla chips and tested 125. Not to bad at all.
I will wait to see how you test....
Gabby replied July 26, 2008 9:43 AM [-]
Well, I am disappointed, but not giving up. I tested this morning and was 20 points HIGHER than I have been running all week. BUT, I did have a juice drink with my meal last night, so maybe that is it. I will keep trying it, because as we all know, we can fluxuate if you look at us funny! LOL
That is also why I bought differnt strengths of red, to see what works better.
I test before I eat, not after. What I was going to start doing was test before I go to bed and see if I am going up or down. I suffer from Dawn Phenomenon and I take my AM at around the same time everyday to find some consistancy. (if there is such a thing) This morning, I also was an hour late in testing, so that may have been it too.
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 9:52 AM [-]
Oh Darn, maybe it's a combination of things you mentioned. I test twice a day, mornings and 2 hours after I start me evening meal. Dr told me that your BG rises upon food intake so my Dr said test after to see how the foods I am eating effect my BG.
Well don't give up yet, gosh you have 4 bottles to polish off! lol.
So have you been 20 points higher in the morning before?
Keep reporting your results, just maybe the juice was the problem.
I tested 111 this morning. I have had such good results and I want you to have them too!
Gabby replied July 26, 2008 10:03 AM [-]
Oh yes! No doubt that I will keep on trying. You can't judge results after one test. Geez we would all still be in the dark if Edison gave up after one light bulb test.
I am not on meds, so my numbers are always high. It is a constant struggle, but I have dropped over 75 point on diet and exercise only, so I always try new things to see what results I get.
This week has been a good week, pretty consistant. But stupid things like stressing over a huge deadline I have next week, change is routine...any of these things can change my numbers. I really have to create my log book so I can start logging all that information to know more.
How do you discipline yourself to test 2 hours after a meal? I get busy and lost in time and then OOOPS, my opportunity is lost.
I test 3 times a day (usually) before each meal. So I make sure my snack is at least 2 hours before my next test time. It is so tricky. If I had enough fingers (and test strips!!) I would test 6-8 times a day to see what is going on.
I am blabbing....more results tomorrow. I drank some today with my lunch, and I will drink some with my dinner. Then we will see.
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 11:22 AM [-]
I don't take meds either, suppose to control through diet and exercise. Working on the diet part, it's hard to find out all the foods you love and have eaten for years is turning on you!
Not sure I call it discipline to test after my meal, the Dr told me to do it so I just do. Sometimes I'm off by 15 or so minutes but that still works out just fine. I know those test strips are expensive but wouldn't it be nice if we could afford to test ourselves more frequent especially when we have a change in routine, etc.
I thought I was getting the Dawn Syndrone myself but my readings are down now in the A.M.
And your right, stress does play a role in it.
Well I sure hope this will bring you the results that I have achieved, (so far)...
Will keep watching for your posting.
ElfinElfin replied July 26, 2008 9:35 AM [-]
Thanks Gabby, perhaps I'll join you in the wine for dinner. As an experiment, I'll test before and 2 hours after to see what effect. Here's to ya!
GabbyGabby replied July 26, 2008 11:16 AM [-]
Okay Sheryl,
I just tested (2 hours after lunch) After eating I actually dropped 16 points...tomorrow morning will tell more too. At this rate, I am going to go thru a whole bottle of test strips this week. LOL, but I really want to find out if it works for me.
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 11:25 AM [-]
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Gabby,
I just replied to your other post...that's good to go down 16 points after your meal. The BG rises when we eat so by being lower after you eat is a good sign, I think. You go girl!
I have considered getting an inexpensive meter that has inexpensive test strips just to use when I want to test something out of the norm.
Gabby replied July 26, 2008 11:37 AM [-]
Another member gave me a number for Freestyle lite that comes with discounted strips. I am going to give them a call. My mom said it isn't great to have two different types of meters, but once I find one that is close to a doctor results, then I will stick with that. I need accuracy, I put too much trust in them to find out that they are not reading propperly. I don't have a fancy one now, but it is what I have, so I work it.
Thanks for all your suggestions and help. This is a fun thread to be in, and I hope that we inspire others to try things that are out of the ordinary.
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 11:55 AM [-]
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I use the Freedom Freestyle Lite and have had problems with 3 of them. In each case Abbott labs has sent a new one with 100 strips each time. They also asked me to try their Precison, I have. The reading are much different then the Freestyle. I will tell you that where I live, 100 test strips for either of those meters are over $100.00 for 100. Abbott did mention that they have a low cost program, check it out and let me know.
I hope your are thrilled with the 16 point lower reading and glad your are willing to go outside the box!
You can also read the studies on the net, type in red wine and diabetes.
LucilleLucille replied July 26, 2008 1:17 PM [-]
Thank you for the wonderful idea, drinking red wine.
One glass of red wine at dinner should not have much affect on my meds since wine is a low alchol content.
I am starting this tonight.
Thanks again!
Lucille
GabbyGabby replied July 26, 2008 5:51 PM [-]
Drum Roll Please.........
17 points up from my before dinner test. But that is not too bad after eating a meal to have it elevate only 17...right? I like going down better. I have not tested my after meal numbers until today, so I don't have anything to compare it to. Does this sound good?
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 6:54 PM [-]
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Gabby, I don't test before dinner so I have nothing to compare to either.
However 17 points sounds like a good spread. It is a fact that when we eat our BG goes up and if it was only 17 for you and not in the high range it would be a success I would think.
When I look at me numbers it's always after I eat and I want them low, which they are.
Do you feel that the 17 points gave you a high reading? I guess if you don't test after your meal it would be hard to measure.
Anyway, let's see what your morning readings are. Don't give up ship yet.
Is there a reason the Dr wants you to test before you eat rather then after?
Seems that before you eat you should be lower then after eating.
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 7:04 PM [-]
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In addition here is a link to the American Diabetes Associations Learning Center.
www.diabetes.org/all-about-diabetes/chan_eng/channel.htm
They are suggesting that 2 hours after starting your meal you should be less then 180. I find that higher then recommened by Dr's, 140, but obviously the ADA number is safe. The morning fasting blood usually under 125. If you go to #5 it's all about the blood tests, etc.
It also explains the A1c test and what the results mean. Nice info.
Gabby replied July 26, 2008 7:08 PM [-]
I am not under a doctor's care, but follow my mom's routine. I suppose if you want a true reading you would do before and after. I am not giving up at all, just noting the progress. Just like everything, I belive it takes several weeks to find a true benefit. Besides, like you said, I have 4 bottles to work thru. Though now I am going to be sharing with my mom and husband.
Sheryl replied July 26, 2008 7:14 PM [-]
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You enjoy sharing that wine with loved ones...and I enjoy you sharing your results.
If you get a chance to go through the ADA link you might find some helpful info on it. I have.
butterfly_8 replied July 26, 2008 8:21 PM [+]butterfly_8 replied July 26, 2008 8:21 PM [-]
OOOhhh!!,Gabby I am waiting to hear you final decision. I am enjoying the suspense. It will make me savor the victory more. I want to know your final choice of wine. I want advice from everyone on their favorite selection. I am going to celebrate. I have a birthday in September. I will be able to act like a grownup. lol
GabbyGabby replied July 27, 2008 6:25 AM [-]
This morning, I was back on track with my numbers. 16 points lower in 24 hour test, and 13 lower than my after dinner test last night. My usual trend it to be higher in the morning than my nite time reading.
As long as I keep dropping, I am very happy. My average for the week is within 10 points of my month so far, but I started late in this week, so next week will tell me more.
GabbyGabby replied July 27, 2008 5:50 PM [-]
Sheesh! This is why this disease is so frustrating. Tonight I ate my meal, tested before and had a beautiful low (for me) number. 2 hours later I was UP 60 points!! My meal was a little high on the sugar counts, apple, bulgur and glazed chicken....bummer. Combinations, combinations...that is always the key. We will see what the morning says.
Sheryl replied July 27, 2008 6:30 PM [-]
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Good news is you were low before your meal. The BG always rises when you eat and to me that's the tattle tale of everything ya do with your meal...I don't test before I eat but I can tell after I eat how good/bad I was with my meal.
Since you are not in the habit of testing after your meal you have no way of knowing how high you may have been going.
However you can compare the before meal tests and you are beautifly low and you seem very pleased with that as you should be.
Lets see how your morning one is tomorrow and if it's low again something is working.
It seems just your after meal is shocking you...I think it can shock most of us at times. You think how could that hurt me it was just a little...yeah right! lol
To sum it up, your morning and before meal tests have been much better, right? Those are the two tests you do everyday so you can compare those. The after dinner test is new so you have nothing to compare to...Still sounds like it's working good for you...hope you still feel the same.
Gabby replied July 27, 2008 6:37 PM [-]
Next week should be a good test. I am increasing my exercise this week, and continuing the wine. I think we had a little too much tonight, but at least it isn't making me sweat so bad. LOL!!
I also ran out of the first type, and I used a different kind tonight. A Cabernet-Sovegnoiun (can't spell it...sorry) It was fruiter, so that could be an issue too. So many variables. I will keep you posted.
Ella Adams replied August 23, 2008 5:25 PM [+]Ella Adams replied August 23, 2008 5:25 PM [-]
Gabby,
I haven't been taking my bg after meals--but I just did after reading all the post and boy was I in for a schocker--175 !!! I can't believe it!I started taking 1000 mg cinnamon the first of the week and was telling a good difference until today. True I did eat some pasta for dinner but that much??
I read someones post and they said type 2 didn't take insulin and that is all I have taken-I think we should all go get four bottles--might not do any good but we wouldn't care for a while where we had diabetes or not ! lol
Ella
Gabby replied August 23, 2008 5:32 PM [-]
Hey Ella,
Yep, the before and after testing is an eye opener. I would have great numbers before dinner and think...Great, I am doing pretty good.
Then the after dinner tests show me a more clear picture. ADA says 30-70 point rise after a meal is acceptable. Most of the time right now I run 20-50. Sometimes it is less, sometimes more. But I find the wine is keeping me in that range more often than not.I do not have the incredible success that Sheryl is having, but as long as my numbers continue to drop, I am VERY happy. So yeah, grab a bottle and join us! LOL
SherylSheryl replied July 29, 2008 1:34 PM [-]
Gabby, havent' heard from you in the last day, how are things going with the test?
My results are still very good. My weekly numbers averages were 135 plus now they are in the low 120's.
Not perfect but much better.
Gabby replied July 29, 2008 5:38 PM [-]
Yesterday, I was not able to drink my evening intake as I was on the road. This morning my numbers were much the same as last week. I did have better mid day numbers. However tonight, my 2 hr reading was 50 points UP, and I had salad, grilled chicken and 1/2 cup fresh fruit. I am thinking that this type of wine is not working as well, I was drinking the Cabernet...New bottle tomorrow and we try another strength. We will have to see. I think the Shivaz works best so far. It is redder.
Plus I was so upset yesterday when I found that I can't see a local Endo because I want to pay cash. (see my post Unbelievable Doctor Policies) I am still upset, so I am sure that is not helping either.
Sheryl replied July 29, 2008 5:54 PM [-]
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Where do you live? First time I heard that cash isn't good...I'll read the post.
You did have a good dinner and that alone should not have been responsible for a 50 point increase. Logic does not play into this disease well!
Are you seeing a better overall morning reading? Since you were not use to testing after you ate those higher numbers probably have always been there, you just didn't see them. Endo Dr's want that after eating number to be 140 or lower. The American Diabetes Association says 170 or below. No wonder we are all confused, not even the experts can agree! lol...And your absolutely right, stress does rise BG as well as just being sick with a cold. This is some crazy stuff and I hope that a cure will be found soon. Heard awhile back that with stem cell they could have a cure in about 5 years..we just have to play the numbers game until then.
A person at the liquer store told me that the burgandy is the darkest red. I bought a bottle of burgandy but still working on finishing the Merlot.
I give you a big high five for not giving up while you try to figure out what is best.
Keep us posted. And thank you so much for sharing.
Gabby replied July 29, 2008 6:00 PM [-]
I live in Florida, Marion county. I understand wanting payment upon a visit, but I just don't get the inability to accept cash....*sigh* I'll get over it, but it is not right.
Tell me how the burgandy works. I bet it is pretty stout.
True too about not knowing my after meal numbers. I guess because on the Shivaz, my numbers actually dropped after eating, I am kind of disapointed about the rise. But like you said, I have no way to know if it is half what it would be if I didn't drink the wine.
Sheryl replied July 29, 2008 6:12 PM [-]
Gabby, just read you other story about the Endo Dr's. What a crime and know wonder your BG is up.
Not sure if you have a recourse other then contacting the Dr's office manager or a letter addressed to the Dr.
I would also look on line for the Medical Board, my senator, the whole nine yards. I would be clear with them that this type of treatment from a professional could cause you further problems with your diabetes. Gp to hollywood with it. Even if nothing comes of it, at least you get to vent it and sometimes that feels pretty darn good!
Hang in there..
Have you checked ebay for test strips? I was looking yesterday and there are some pretty good deals to look at. Just another way to try to save money these days.
Gabby replied July 29, 2008 6:23 PM [-]
I have heard about Ebay for strips, and I need to check that out.
Yep, JP gave me advice to write to the Doctors, and on up the line, which I will be doing. I have to get over my "Pissy" venting and make sure that I do it right if I hope to gain anything for anyone who faces this problem. Another thing to be an activist about. LOL
DiabetesDivaDiabetesDiva replied July 29, 2008 6:46 PM [+]DiabetesDiva replied July 29, 2008 6:46 PM [-]
Have not had any alcohol since my diagnosis last year. Both my Dad and sister drink red wine and neither one has diabetes. Let me know how this works out for all of you.
Gabby-I can have a high reading on my right hand, then immediately do a reading on my left hand with a spread of 40 pt difference. Hang in there. Hope you are ok.
Kate
GabbyGabby replied July 30, 2008 5:41 PM [-]
Hey Sheryl,
Merlot (my wine of choice tonight) seemed to be very friendly.
I had a lower number this evening AFTER dinner than I had this morning before breakfast. My number did rise 30 points after my meal, but I am very excited about today's results.
I had zucchini boats with eggs and cheese and shrimp with artichoke and linguini.(Dream Field Pasta of course is the best!!)
I also ordered my first bunch of testing supplies from E-bay. Now that I am testing up to 6 times a day instead of 2-3, I need all the strips I can get. Thanks for the info. I got a great deal. 200 strips, 200 lancets, and glucose testing fluid all for $40. It expires in Sept of 2009, so we will see when they arrive. But I am stoked about that price.
Sheryl replied July 30, 2008 6:12 PM [-]
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Gabby, all that is wonderful! I did see the ebay testing supplies were very affordable. You got a great price for what you got...
Now as for the wine, very good. I am using a Merlot right now. I bought a very inexpensive one called Wild Vines and it's a Black Berry Merlot. Very good actually. It's 50.7 FL so it was a big bottle. Cost me on sale, $6.99. It is on the sweeter side but doesn't seem to have any effect on the outcome.
Today, I did the worst thing I could do, I ate a double quarter pounder with cheese, about 7 or 8 FF's and knew I was going to sky rocket..my reading was 100!!!! Couldn't beleive it. I did take the top bun off the burger. I had such a craving for junk food and my Dr said don't feel deprived all the time and go ahead and splurge once and a great while so I did. This whole thing blows my mind.
I am so happy for you finding such a good deal and a happy BG story.
Let me know when your supplies arrive that they are what they say they are. I know people that do that and have had no problems.
Look forward to your updates....Ta Dah!
Gabby replied July 30, 2008 6:22 PM [-]
I had a day like that a while back. Where I work there is nothing but junk food and expensive dining. I usually pack a salad and snacks, but I ran out of time that morning. I ate 2 checker burgers (no fries) I just knew I was going to regret it....I was surprised like you. It is so crazy.
My splurge is vanilla icecream with almonds and ground cinnamon. I have a little bit, about 1/2 cup for a nite time sanck, and believe it or not, it keeps my numbers in check. When I don't have it and try other bedtime snacks, and I have tried a lot, they send my numbers up. I love popcorn, but it spikes me thru the roof, even with the 100 calorie packs. THAT is a bummer.
Sheryl replied July 30, 2008 6:40 PM [-]
Gabby, yeah my Dr said corn is one of the worst things for a diabetic. I cave into soft server ice cream but it does elevate me alot so I have to leave it alone. I buy sugar free ice cream and put it in the microwave to soften it and pretend I'm having a soft serve. Also put sugar free fudge topping on it. Works out good. My worst time is at night in front of the TV...I keep peanuts out, suppose to be good. However I get into other stuff sometimes..bad, bad, bad....
My morning readings have been very good since I started the wine thing so whatever I am doing at night doesn't seem to bother me much.
The only hope we all have is that science can find a cure but until then it's a crazy life....
Gabby replied July 30, 2008 6:53 PM [-]
Evil TeeVee....evil.
Yes I suffer the mindless eating monster when I watch TV. I do low sodium sunflower seeds in the shell. Keeps me busy for hours and keeps the carb and calorie intake low.
If I don't use BlueBell homemade vanilla ice cream, I spike. There must be something in their combination that works, but I also have to have a fat like nuts with it to work. One thing is for sure, we never get bored!! LOL
butterfly_8 replied July 30, 2008 8:49 PM [+]butterfly_8 replied July 30, 2008 8:49 PM [-]
Hi Sheryl and Gabby,
I have been paaying close attention to what you have been saying..and now I think I will try thre Merlot. You both seem to get better results with it.Please keep letting us know how you are feeling.and double congrats on getting your supplies.
GabbyGabby replied July 31, 2008 5:01 AM [-]
Today is a good day. My moring numbers were the lowest they have been in over a month. I have had lower, but I am greatly encouraged. I was 31 points lower than my 24 hour read yesterday morning. Man, if I could just once have a morning reading of even 150 I would be soooooo happy. I think we might be on to something. I drop during the day usually...so my after dinner read tonight should be very interesting.
Sheryl replied July 31, 2008 9:31 AM [-]
That is such great news Gabby. So far the Merlot wins.
I have noticed with mine BG, with just that one 1/2 glass of wine my numbers continue to stay down and look better as time goes on.
We are definately on to something here.
Let us know how you dinner reading went. This is like an unfinished book, can't put it down...lol.
Gabby replied July 31, 2008 9:33 AM [-]
It will certainly be one of the longest threads on the site! Hopefully it will have a happy ending.
Sheryl replied July 31, 2008 9:39 AM [-]
That's okay and perhaps it will go on for a long time. It shows we have a desire to step outside the box and share our experiences. Mine and yours being positive and adding Butterfly will even make it more interesting.
kooney replied July 31, 2008 10:35 AM [-]
I heard that cinnamon is really good sprinkle it on your ceral or in your coffee will also lower bg
Sheryl replied July 31, 2008 10:49 AM [-]
kooney, I tried cinnamon but I didn't achieve any noticable results. Maybe if I start it again with the wine it will help. However I want to wait a bit and not confuse results. SInce I am still coming down in numbers I just want to stay with one thing for now.
kooneykooney replied July 31, 2008 10:37 AM [-]
i tried it as well it does help and i am not a drinker either
GabbyGabby replied July 31, 2008 5:38 PM [-]
Husbands, you gotta love 'em. We divide our evening cooking between 4 of us and tonight was burgers, fries and salad. I gave my merlot a big test tonight. I had one of the lowest before dinner numbers I have EVER had, and that is good. BUT my numbers were elevated by 87 points. I think I found a trouble food in potatoes. I have never been able to check it before. The good news is that even with such a rise, I was still lower than I was running last week after dinner...so that is GREAT news.
Sheryl replied July 31, 2008 6:03 PM [-]
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Gabby, we are definately on to something here!
I have a hard time with french fries to. What I try to do with a burger if I can is take the top bun off which helps cut some of the carbs then I feel I can have a couple of fries. I can eat baked potato and some mashed potatoe. Canned yams do not bother me at all. I get rid of the syrup, and mash them like potatoes and no BG elevation..
It's funny how testing after you eat tells a story.
Yeah this wine thing is helping my over all numbers come down even though I only drink it with dinner.
So you should be real happy that your overall numbers are coming down and by testing after your evening meal you can see your trouble foods fairly easy.
Viva Merlot!!!! lol.
Butterfly, have you done any wine yet?
butterfly_8 replied August 1, 2008 11:50 AM [+]butterfly_8 replied August 1, 2008 11:50 AM [-]
No not yet,
I am savoring this breakthrough.. I will go shopping this weekend for my Merlot. I will definitely let you know by next week. I am going to also pick an alternative red to try.
GabbyGabby replied August 1, 2008 3:52 AM [-]
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Another good moring read. I was 9 higher than yesterday, but I gave my body a work out with the carbs last night. I will be on the road today, but I hope that I will be able to eat dinner at home. We will have to see. I am liking this a lot though. I feel like it is making a difference. And now that I have started my 30 days of veggies, I hope to see even better results.
GabbyGabby replied August 1, 2008 5:21 PM [-]
I am out of wack today, but my numbers still turned out pretty good. My Merlot is really keeping me steady...only a 29 point rise from a nice number before dinner (at least for me)
Sheryl replied August 1, 2008 6:19 PM [-]
Gabby that is so good to hear. It's amazing how it can bring the numbers down isn't it? You'll find that being 'out of wack' seems to be the norm for this diabetes stuff. You should be happy with the over all results of lower numbers.
You will probably always spike up a bit after you eat. How high the spike is depends on what was on the menu...haha
I haven't tested yet but I had KFC hot wings, cole slaw, mashed and beans...and of course my wine. Not the best but was busy today and to hungry to take time to cook...I'm sure we have all been there.
I'll post back when I test at 7:20 my time. (pst).
Go Gabby, Go Gabby....
Soon we may have a Go Butterfly, Go Butterfly.
Viva Merlot!
Sheryl replied August 1, 2008 7:21 PM [-]
Just tested my KFC dinner, drum roll..
109! Not bad at all. Really liking these lower numbers. Maybe in time they will be normal again. Wouldn't that be wonderful!
GabbyGabby replied August 2, 2008 5:56 AM [-]
Again my numbers are lower in the AM. Since using wine with my dinner last week, I have dropped my AM numbers consistantly by 25 points, which is great because my AM is usally the highest number of my day. I drop during the day, even when I eat, so if my PM after meal keeps going down, my AM will follow suite...at least that is what my brain thinks, my body on the other hand may have different ideas. LOL
I am so greatful for your post and how it is helping me improve.
Sheryl replied August 2, 2008 9:58 AM [-]
Good report again, bravo!
So overall your numbers are improving daily...who would have thought that a simple glass of red wine could have such beneficial results!
Not to mention it's good for the heart as well.
I look forward to your postings and how much this has helped you get those numbers down. It must feel great for you especially when things seemed to be out of control.
Has your mom joined you with a glass of wine?
Gabby replied August 2, 2008 3:35 PM [-]
My mom has joined on occassion. Vinegar works well for her. Better than it did for me. I am still drinking vinegar in the morning and at lunch. I don't want to lose even the tinyest of footholds.
Sheryl replied August 2, 2008 5:23 PM [-]
Vinegar didn't do much for me either. The first time I tried it I was low so I thought this might work. Well there after it didn't seem to help much.
I made a stir fry tonight with rice...I use brown rice. I started with 1/2 white and brown now I have it about 3/4 brown and am use to it now. Rice hasn't bothered me much in the past so I'm not worried about it.
But as you know when you think your doing good the body has a different story to tell you!
Gabby replied August 2, 2008 5:35 PM [-]
Isn't that so true. Once we think we have our bodies figured out, they drop a bomb on us. Keeps life interesting doesn't it. Tonight, my after dinner number was just up by 31 points, so it seems that I am keeping well within the ADA recommended after meal increases of 30-70 points. Now that that it is in a good range, if I can just get my overall numbers lower, I will be very happy.
GabbyGabby replied August 3, 2008 6:51 AM [-]
My mornings are becoming less dreadful every day. Another great read for me this morning. By the end of the day, I will be able to see if my weekly average has dropped from last week. I don't see how it couldn't.
GabbyGabby replied August 3, 2008 5:05 PM [-]
My first full week is done. Merlot seems so far to be the most favorable for me. I am going to share some frighteninly high numbers to most of you, but they are exciting to me.
My target this week was 200-230
I had 9 within, 5 above and 8 below target!
Last week was 9 within, 10 above and 2 below target...Improvement!
The last month my weekly average was between 233-246. This weeks average is 214!!!
Next week will be my first target week that will be 190-220. I am so excited.
Sheryl replied August 3, 2008 5:14 PM [-]
That's awesome.
I will be anxious to hear the results for next week.
Hopefully lower yet and yet again!
You are doing so good and it must feel wonderful to think you have some control over the 'numbers'....simply by enjoying a glass of wine....wow.
Keep up the good job! I always look for your posts and your continued success with this approach.
Sheryl replied August 3, 2008 6:27 PM [-]
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Just took my blood test after eating BBQ Ribs and Brisket, corn on the cob (a real no-no) and salad. The results were 91! This is just to awesome.
Gabby replied August 3, 2008 7:16 PM [-]
Wow! I am amazed. I could never eat something like that and end up with nubmers like that. Are you sure you are diabetic?? LOL. That is fantastic!
Sheryl replied August 3, 2008 8:19 PM [-]
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That's what I am told...my A1c in March was 6.5 and in June it was 6.7...I've had numbers over 200. I think I'm at the 'pre' stage. 6.5 and over is diabetic to blood Dr's, 7.0 is diabetic according to the ADA...So I'm in the middle.
Actually when I ate a french dip sandwich it went to 201! Tought me a lesson!
During the holidays and winter months before I was confimed I was bad, bad...Someone brought us over a box of sees candies...I started on those and went nuts for months. Baked cakes all the time, at candies and all the carbs and junk I wanted...then the A1c came along. Stopped all that nonsense and still yet had a higher A1c...along with higher readings.
Now my readings are coming down, curious to see what the A1c will be in September. That will tell the whole story, but I suspect it will be down.
Can't help beleive the wine is playing a positive role in all this. I'm stoked.
Sure you are to.
Gabby replied August 4, 2008 4:01 AM [-]
You bet! My morning reading was down again another 5 points. It is consistantly going down and that is what has me thrilled. I am also doing a vegitarian routine for the month of August and I know that has something to add to it, but I am searching for a combination that will keep me healthy and off meds. This was a great find.
Sheryl replied August 5, 2008 9:41 AM [-]
This is just to awesome. How were was your reading this morning?
I tested a little higher last night because I ate a few french fries....a real no-no but couldn't resist.
My husband isn't diabetic which makes it hard. He doesn't understand that I shouldn't have certain things, he wants foods the way they have always been so I find it easy to cheat sometimes. It's a struggle, I have to cook for him.
Gabby replied August 5, 2008 5:50 PM [-]
My numbers today have been elevated and tonight I had a 90 point rise! YIKES. I am trying to eat vegitarian this month and I had a pasta salad tonight and it kind of messed me up I think. It is the hightest number I have had for two weeks. I did have good numbers before dinner, but I messed up. Tomorrow is a new day though.
Sheryl replied August 5, 2008 6:15 PM [-]
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Oh my, well nothing is perfect...Well you now know that pasta doesn't agree with you. Did you have any bread with your pasta? Bread does me in! AND I love bread. I would fill up on it if I could.
It's amazing how a simple food can cause so many problems.
Now that your testing after you eat you will be able to pin point the danger foods that's for sure.
I hope tomorrow is a better day for you...let me know. And most importantly, don't get down on yourself, your doing great!
Gabby replied August 6, 2008 4:20 AM [-]
Our grocer didn't have Dreamfield pasta and we bought a whole grain "good for you pasta", but it still doesn't do as well as Dreamfiled. No bread with dinner. I'm not a big bread fan, which is a huge help! LOL My thing is pasta, and I pretty much cut it out until I heard about Dreamfield. Unfortunately, my step daughter cooks pasta with almost every meal that she cooks for the household...so I just try to eat around it.
Nah, I won't let a bad day get me down. I was a little out of sorts yesterday, emotions all over the place so who knows. This morning my reading was lower than yesterday's and with as high as I was last night, that was a relief.
I went to the health food store to pick up some seeds for spouting and making thanini. More experiments.
Sheryl replied August 6, 2008 10:03 AM [-]
Good to hear your morning reading is down again. I'm sure emotions play a role in this to, equal to stress.
I can eat pasta so far. I did buy some Dreamfield but haven't used it yet.
Kinda funny, you love pasta and it's turning on you, I love bread and it turned on me..seems like the stuff we really like and probably over ate all our lives is the stuff that's getting revenge...lol.
Did you get your diabetic supplies from E-Bay and were they as promised?
irwinhirwinh replied August 7, 2008 7:04 AM [-]
Does anybody know what is in the wine that helps? Is it the flavoids? I have read that vinegar helps, could those two be related somehow?
Sheryl replied August 7, 2008 9:18 AM [-]
Hi irwinh,
I have copied in below a clip from the science daily. Hope this helps, and yes flavoids are good also however this 'resveratrol' is what they found in the skins of red grapes. The test is showing the results in mice and reported in 2007.
"ScienceDaily (Oct. 4, 2007) — Even relatively low doses of resveratrol--a chemical found in the skins of red grapes and in red wine--can improve the sensitivity of mice to the hormone insulin, according to a new report. As insulin resistance is often characterized as the most critical factor contributing to the development of type 2 diabetes, the findings "provide a potential new therapeutic approach for preventing or treating" both conditions, the researchers said.
The research group also confirmed that increased levels of an enzyme called SIRT1, which earlier studies had linked to longevity, DNA repair, and insulin secretion, improve insulin sensitivity in mice. Resveratrol is known to activate the SIRT1 enzyme."
SherylSheryl replied August 8, 2008 10:03 AM [-]
Hi guys, haven't seen anyone post on this thread the last couple of days.
Waiting to hear from Butterfly and her results.
Gabby?
I'm still doing very well with the wine and guess it will become a staple for me.
Hope anyone else who tried it is experiencing good results as well.
butterfly_8 replied August 8, 2008 1:11 PM [+]butterfly_8 replied August 8, 2008 1:11 PM [-]
Hi Sheryl,
I just came back from shopping 1/2 hr ago . I have my Merlot. Tonight I will have a glass with dinner. ( Chicken breast with cream of mushroom soup,Brown rice and steamed Broccoli ).I will be keeping my fingers crossed. I found my wine from Wal-_mart. I hope it is good. Sort of cheap. lol
Sheryl replied August 8, 2008 6:27 PM [-]
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Hi Butterfly, was hoping you didn't decide not to give this a try.
Dinner sounds yummy! You'll be able to tell when you test if this is going to work for you. I sure hope so.
Let us know how it went for you.
I don't think it matters how expensive the wine is, it's the redness. I don't pay alot for mine either, just looking for good numbers. I am actually getting use to drinking it with dinner, took a while cause I don't drink....
GabbyGabby replied August 8, 2008 6:47 PM [-]
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I'm still here. I have had a crazy last couple of days, but I have to say that I have had some good numbers. I had a 175 before dinner tonight, but I missed my 2 hr test, as I had to go grocery shopping. It will be intersting, as this weekend we are going to a convention. It is going to be two days, so I joked and told my hubby that we had to find a restaraunt tomorrow night that serves red wine. I am thinking I am going to be using wine on a regular basis.
It was so cute, tonight my husband was talking to another lady in the grocery store, telling her all my diet tips and tricks. It was quite funny.
Sheryl replied August 8, 2008 7:14 PM [-]
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Good to know your still here...So, so glad to hear your numbers are coming down. Who knows where the bottom will be and wouldn't it be wonderful it they could go back to the normal range!
I take my meter with me if I eat out or go out after I eat. I have only forgotten to test once after my meal, which for me is a miracle that I am following through. lol
Enjoy your convention and yes, go to restaurants that serve wine, enjoy.
Nice that your husband is in tune with your diabetes and is cute that he is able to share with another lady your tips and tricks! How funny...
The wine is not only beneficial to the BG it's great for the heart. In that book I am reading it states that once your have diabetes it's pretty evident that you already have heart disease...kinda scarey thought so even more reason to drink up!
Have a good time and post when you can.
Amy TenderichAmy Tenderich replied August 9, 2008 5:04 AM [+]Amy Tenderich replied August 9, 2008 5:04 AM [-]
Interesting... it seems that a lot of Type 1's also have allergy issues with red wine (histamines).
But there is some evidence that it has a positive effect on BG levels. See this post about a new red wine pill:
http://www.diabetesmine.com/2008/01/new-red-wine-pi.html
Best,
AmyT
CharishCharish replied August 9, 2008 9:19 PM [-]
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Wine is said to have a positive and medical affect on a woman's health. Just a small about of red wine is all needed for our good health. But I also know that some have to be careful in consuming it, just be mindful of yourself and for those who can......CHEERS.
Gabby replied August 10, 2008 1:42 PM [-]
What I have been doing is drinking up to 1/2 cup of wine at dinner. Sometimes I do it at lunch, but only if I am home for the day. My body is getting used to it, in the begining I would sweat like I ran a mile. Now I don't suffer that, and it really seems to have lowered my numbers. I am still working on which one does the best for me.
By no means are we advocating drinking if you cannot handle it or if the other effects of it outweigh the benefits. As in all things, we must be moderate and check with doctors. Though if you have a doctor like my moms...do what you think is going to help you. His words to her were (on wholistic or natural remedies) "do it if it makes you feel better." Gee Thanks! And they wonder why we do so many things on our own?
SherylSheryl replied August 12, 2008 5:57 PM [-]
Gabby, you haven't posted in a while, how are you doing with your numbers? I hope it's still a success story!
My numbers continue to be wonderful and I'm so pleased.
Gabby replied August 13, 2008 5:16 PM [-]
Hey Sheryl,
Yes, I am still having good numbers, even while I was on the road, and that worried me most. I dropped my weekly average another point so that made me very happy. I am seeing many more 170's, 180's and that is fantastic for me.
I have to admit, I have not been on line too much because I have been watching the olympics. I have been to two summer games (Atlanta and Sydney), and I just love watching. In person is better, but TeeVee does okay. I think the Shivaz works better for me. That is what I was drinking last week and that combated more "high carb" foods, like a dinner roll, and potato chips. I am still careful to watch how much, but it is going the right direction still.
Sheryl replied August 13, 2008 7:35 PM [-]
Gabby, that's great, it's all about good numbers how ever they can be achieved!
I ate spaghetti tonight, a good size bowl, using dreamfield pasta, along with a salad, cottage cheese, fruit and my glass of wine. I tested 100, oh yeah!!!
I'm loving this!
I will admit that I had a bowl of soft serve ice cream yesterday...been staying away from it, it's my down fall. I did not have wine, we were out to eat and still my blood tested about 30 points lower then it did when I use to eat the ice cream.
I haven't tried a Shivaz before. Is it sweet or tart? I'm still using the Blackberry Merlot, seems to work good for me. Everyone is different and the point is 'red'.
Those Olympics can draw you in....
Keep me posted...
Ella AdamsElla Adams replied August 13, 2008 6:08 PM [+]Ella Adams replied August 13, 2008 6:08 PM [-]
I am going to try that and see if my Type 2 will get good results. Thanks
SherylSheryl replied August 13, 2008 7:49 PM [-]
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A little off topic here but if anyone loves breads and baked goods as much as me they have a low carb baking flour like bisquick. here's a link for it.
http://www.carbsmart.com/carbquik.html
Also a link to dreamfields and on the left you will see all the low carb foods available that you can click into.
http://www.carbsmart.com/dpasta.html
With fall/winter not long off I am looking to be able to eat some of my comfort foods and these sites have alot of them.
gogobob replied August 14, 2008 6:34 AM [-]
I have been a type 1 since 1978 and before that I was a drunk my diet was grilled chees and a bottle of scotch daily I did not know how to cook and did not have a glass so i used a funnel for the scotch then one day I got up and said enough is enough so I quit drinking and got a g/f to teach me how to cook.
GabbyGabby replied August 17, 2008 4:20 PM [-]
**Sigh*** This week I went backwards. I am kind of bummed, but still going. My weekly avereage went up 7 points. The start of the week was good, but I think the stress of the hurricane Fay, Bankruptsy hearing and all the other little junk that grabs is getting to me.
Actually last night and tonight, my after dinner numbers were lower or the same as before dinner...they were just a little higher to start with.
Tomorrow I get to start at the gym with my husband and I know that will be better for me too. I walk now but am looking forward to working some other parts of my body.
I have not heard from anyone else on how they are doing. Any input??
Sheryl replied August 17, 2008 6:16 PM [-]
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Hi Gabby, so sorry to hear your numbers are not where you would like them to be. Stress can cause high BG without a doubt. Problem is, not sure how to avoid stress in our everyday lives. Maybe a bottle of red wine....haha, just kidding!!
The good sign is your numbers are not spiked after you eat, that's great. Are you still down from you pre-wine days?
Perhaps you will benefit alot from the gym in many ways. It could even help reduce your stress level.
No one is posting on this anymore. I was hoping to hear updates from some of the others.
I found a bread the other day that nets only 4 grams of carbs per slice...I am in heaven..I ate eggs with 4 slices of it toasted, which would have done me in if it had been any other bread, and I tested 101!! I was so pleased. This is the first bread I can actually eat without a problem. Any other bread, 100% whole wheat, whole grains, in fact any bread. They all have a high carb count per slice and I can't eat just one slice.
This is a learning experience to say the least and to find what works since it's not a one size fits all.
You are on the right track, you are taking control and experimenting with what works for you. Ups and downs are probably expected. I spiked the other day, ate something I shouldn't have but the spike wasn't nearly as high as it was before I started the red wine.
Hang in there sweetie and we got to keep this thread alive.
Gabby replied August 18, 2008 6:51 PM [-]
My numbers today were much more to my liking and I had one of my lowest pre dinner readings for a few weeks. Yep, stress is a bummer and I thought that I managed it pretty well, but I think the numbers tell me different. Tonight was my first big workout at the gym, and I did a good work out, so I am interested in how my AM will read...But tomorrow is the Court Hearing, and the Hurricane is going to be rolling in...sheesh. Well at least I get it all at once, and maybe after it is all done, I can be back to normal. LOL
Ginetteb replied August 17, 2008 6:18 PM [-]
Well, you all won me over. I went out and bought myself some Merlot. That was 3 days ago and I have not opened the bottle yet simply because I did not think about it at dinner. So as soon as my memory serves me, I'll let you know what Merlot did for me. Hopefully, it will be good news.
GabbyGabby replied August 21, 2008 5:19 PM [-]
Good, good day. I think the stress of this week had really built up last week in anticipation. Now that some of that has passed and the storm is not so bad (though I am tired of rain) My numbers were much more in line. In fact, this morning, I had my best AM reading since I have been tracking it. I think my wine of choice is going the be the Shiraz. It seems to work best.
Sheryl replied August 21, 2008 6:50 PM [-]
Good to know you are okay with that storm hanging around in Florida. I know the to much rain feeling, I live in Western Washington and we get more then enough of that here.
So glad to hear that your numbers came back down. Such a good feeling isn't it?
I find the wine so amazing. My numbers continue to improve as well. Not sure where the bottom is and if this is it I'll take it.
I haven't tried a Shiraz, is it sweet or bitter?
You go girl! I wish some of the others would report to let us know how the wine worked for them.
Gabby replied August 23, 2008 4:17 PM [-]
The Shiraz is a little more bitter. It warms me up a bit, but it seems to be the best for me. I like the taste of the merlot best, but I am not drinking it for flavor, but for results. so when I want to drink for "fun" I still like the "fake" wines of Arbor Mist. But for my serious drinking (lol) I use Yellow Tail Shiraz.
Sheryl replied August 23, 2008 8:27 PM [-]
Are your numbers still improving? Mine are gradually coming down. I do a 7 and 14 day average and each week they are lower...Yeah!
Tonight we ate out, I had a petite sirloin, 4 beer battered fried prawns, baked potato, salad and broccoli and cauliflower...tested 115..that was without wine!
I see my Dr on the 10th of next month and am going to ask her for Metformim, I take nothing now. I understand if you can tolerate the Metformim it has lots of benefits besides lowering BG and it also helps with weight loss...oh la la....
I will try to get a bottle of your kind and see how that works..
Gabby replied August 24, 2008 8:20 AM [-]
I have a little bump again these past two days. Found another food I cannot eat...tortilla chips. I did find that the bean dip I made to go with the chips is great on CELERY!! So from now on, the family can have the chips and I will eat it on celery. I still get the crunch, but without the carbs.
I am coming to the conclusion that I just have to take in FAR less carbs than the recommended amounts to keep my levels stable. I will have my weekly average tonight and take a look and compare a month without the wine and my month with wine and see how it is improved overall. And since wine takes care of my heart and my sugar, I am willing to stick with it. It will be intersting when I get to finally visit my doctor again, to see how my blood work in general is. I am expecting to see imporvements in many areas.
Sheryl replied August 24, 2008 1:06 PM [-]
Gabby, also started drining Atkins Advantage, Dark Chocolate Royale Shake to take care of my chocolate cravings. It's wonderful, 11oz has 2g net carbs which is great.
Got it at Walmart and will definately keep these on hand for my urges..
MoniqueMonique replied August 28, 2008 5:13 PM [-]
That is very good information. I love wine, so that made me VERY happy!
Sheryl replied August 29, 2008 9:17 AM [-]
Monique, it's worth a shot. I'm still getting very good results with the red wine. My numbers on averages keep coming down by several points.
Let us know how it works for you. Might as well have something you love in your diet since we have to give up so much of what we love!
SherylSheryl replied August 31, 2008 7:31 AM [-]
I guess this thread is dying..no one is posting any results to their having a 1/2 glass of wine a day.
Gabby I hope your still getting good results. I am, been testing under 100 lately, yeah!
Now the fun part, we are leaving for vacation on Wednesday through at least Sept 14th. The bad part of this fun vacation will be eating out everyday.
It will be a real challenge for me and I so hoping it doesn't ruin a long over due vacation.
If this thread is still alive I will post when I return.
Gabby replied August 31, 2008 8:16 AM [-]
Hey Sheryl,
Yep, I am going to post my fianl thing tonight when I get all my averages and can compare last month with this month. I am still doing it, it is not as dramatic for me as it is for you, but it is still working and that is the most important part.
I too wish others had posted results, but there will be other times. I think this thread broke the record on the site though...LOL
Have fun on your vacation. Drink vinegar if you can't get wine, and if you can't have that, just watch the carb count more closely. Don't stress over it...vacations are meant to be fun. Who knows, you might find a new combination that does even better. If you do, you must share!!
Post some pics from your trip on the site so we can see them. Thanks so much for this topic. It has changed my life, and though others may not have shared, there may be some that it touched as well.
GabbyGabby replied August 31, 2008 5:09 PM [-]
Here you go everyone
5 1/2 weeks have gone by on my quest to find out if wine works to help control my BG numbers. Remember, I am not taking any meds to help, this is total diet, and exercise. Here is what I have found.
Before Wine 1 month average: 229
After Wine 1 month average: 215
Before Wine AM read average: 245
After Wine AM read average:216
Before Wine Lowest AM read: 209
After Wine Lowest AM read: 187
Before Wine Highest AM read: 297
After Wine Highest AM read: 252
Before Wine I did not test after a meal, but after I started drinking wine, I found my numbers averaged over 29 after meal tests to be an 8 point raise. That is phenominal.
This does not block the high glycimic items like whole wheat pasta, potatoes, tortilla chips or rice (even brown rice) as much as I would like, but since I had no before wine after meal tests, I am not sure if it did work to keep them lower than before.
The other factors that may be part of my success are that I basically ate a vegitarian diet (for the most part) for the month of August and my exercise routine had increased from 5 min to 15 min (I am following the "no excuse exercise program" discussion)
I conclude that this experiment is a sucess for me. My wine of choice is Yellow Tail Shiraz, as the merlot and cabernet or sauvagon did not maintain my numbers as well.
My deepest gratitude to Sheryl for posting this discussion. I would have never known or tried to do this had it not been for her enthusiasim and desire to share her success with all of us.
Thanks!!
Sheryl replied August 31, 2008 8:58 PM [-]
Gabby,
Thats wonderful and thank you so much for sharing your success! You go girl!
I am not sure if or where the bottom to the red wine reduction is but what the heck, it's fun trying to figure it out.
I have also started taking Vegeterian Formula, Biotin, 1000 MCG's once a day.It is suppose to support Carbohydrates, Protein and Fat metabilism.
Like you I take no medication, my numbers are still coming down but can't tell if it's the wine or both, just know something is working here.
My averages the last week have been in the high 90's to low 100's....I am so totally amazed with all this.
Gabby thanks for being a good sport and sharing with us...I love happy stories!
Gabby replied August 31, 2008 11:04 PM [-]
I know I have a long way to go, but it is encouraging to see how far I have come in just a few weeks. I had my lowest ever weekly average last week with a 208. I know it is still high, but it is lower than I have had since march and that makes it worth it to me.
Elfin replied September 4, 2008 10:30 PM [-]
Since the wine didn't seem to work for me, I don't post on this thread usually. But reading everyone's stories of trying and testing to substatiate the effects of wine are impressive! How proud we are of you who adventure into non medical control of numbers. Keep up the good work!
GabbyGabby replied September 8, 2008 9:28 AM [-]
Well here is another applaude for Red Wine. I was away for 3 days to a trade show. I walked and lifted and exercised more than I usually do. I ate less and kept on my veggie, salad meal system. I was at a FOOD show, and managed to stay away from all the wonderful smelling goodies that were passed out...and still, my numbers were UP these past few days. The only thing that was missing was my wine...my wonderful red wine. So tonight, it is back on the menu!
Sheryl replied September 17, 2008 1:05 PM [-]
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Gabby, how are you doing? You haven't posted for awhile and neither have I. Been on vacation.
I had some issues with my BG being elevated while on vacation. Only had wine one time. Ate things I should not have, put myself through a real test.
Now I'm back home and back on track, having the wine with dinner, eating better and numbers are down again.
I see my Dr on Friday and going to ask for Metformin to get the numbers down even more.
Let me know how your doing and if your numbers are still coming down.
Sheryl replied September 17, 2008 1:10 PM [-]
PS,
Forgot to add this site I found for low carb items. Has alot of stuff and not overly priced. I have a hard time finding products where I live so I have to extend my shopping to the net.
Wish this stuff was more available to all of us but the food industy doesn't work that way.
http://www6.netrition.com/low_carb_products_page.html
Gabby replied September 17, 2008 5:03 PM [-]
I have been doing pretty well. Yes, being on the road is a hard thing to do when you have a routine at home. I was at a trade show working hard, eating right and my numbers were high. I got so frustrated, I just ate Chinese food the last day there.
I am back on track now, and my shiraz is working just fine. Infact dinner tonight with wine dropped my after diner numbers by 8 points. That is so much better than going up.
Thanks for the website, I will have to check it out.
Sheryl replied September 19, 2008 4:00 PM [-]
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Went to the Dr today. My BG is actually doing pretty good. Morning readings are below target range. After dinner readings are just above target range. (sure vacation had a role in that).
Told Dr about the wine, she said it was a good thing and that it was also good for my heart. Thumbs up.
Asked for Metformim and will start taking it tonight. Hope to see even better results soon.
Will get the A1c results in a week or so. Told me if that continues to go up it would indicate that my pancreas isn't working. If it comes down then I am doing a great job!
Gabby replied September 19, 2008 5:48 PM [-]
that is fantastic Sheryl. I hope your A1C is good. Did you have one to compare it to, or is this your first one? I need to order a home kit so I can get one for comparrison. I need to see that number..I am afraid to see it, but I need to.
Let me know how the test went and what you plan to do next.
Sheryl replied September 20, 2008 9:08 AM [-]
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Gabby, in answer to the A1c, this will be my 3rd this year. First test was 6.5, second one was 6.7....hope this one went down.
It's a scarey number to see but it tells the biggest story on how we're doing. Hope yours will a pleasant surprise!
Took my first Metformim last night, no difference in my morning reading...in the usual area. No stomach discomfort so far...
I'll keep you posted and you keep me posted....
Sheryl replied September 25, 2008 2:10 PM [-]
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Well got my results for the A1c today, 6.5 which is down from 6.7. Now that I am taking metformin I hope to see better results when I test again in December.
Last night I got a very low reading after dinner which was: a pork chop, mashed potatoes, gravy, green beans and fruit /w cottage cheese, red wine and I tested 77! I retested and it was the same. Didn't feel odd...BUT decided to test again after an hour and a half was up to 91...not sure what all that was about.
Did you get your A1c done? If so I hope it's a good reading.
Ordered the Carb Quick biscuit mix, coming Monday. Found a 5# bag for $13.99 and can't wait to be able to eat biscuits again especially with winter coming.
Hope everyone is doing good.....
BTW does anyone know if 77 is around average or a good reading? I looked on the net last night and got nothing but mixed numbers on what 'normal range' is.
Gabby replied September 25, 2008 3:22 PM [-]
Hey Sheryl.
That is fantastic about your A1C. Next one will be better as long as you make it thru Holloween....if you know what I mean. lol
It is my understanding that 70-120 is a good range. I would say 90-110 are most desirable. But I wouldn't know, don't think I have been there for a long time.
Just watch it if you get on the low end, lower is better to a point, we don't want you passing out in your potatoes and gravy now.
Sheryl replied September 25, 2008 4:48 PM [-]
Ahh, but what a place to be passed out....lol. And with a glass on wine in my hand...what a vision....
On the web one site said 70-99 is normal, one said 76 is normal, geeezzzzz.
I know for us diabetics getting under 100 is fabulous...not to mention the hard work involved.
So Gabby, it sounds like your still doing well with your numbers, that's great. Viva the red wine!
Gabby replied September 25, 2008 7:55 PM [-]
My average rise after dinner is staying pretty low, and for that I am greatful. I still am working on getting my overall numbers down. It is so very slow....but at least I am going in the right direction.
caspersmamacaspersmama replied September 20, 2008 10:22 AM [+]caspersmama replied September 20, 2008 10:22 AM [-]
I had been reading all of these posts for a few days now and decided to give the red wine a try. I got Sutter Home Merlot and loved it. But the one question I have is when is everyone drinking it. Before dinner, during or after or before bed. I have been drinking it after dinner and then about 10 pm I take my metformin and the past 2 mornings have been great. One was 122 and this morning was 105. The lowest I have ever been in the mornings. So if it is the red wine that is doing it. It works and I love it. Just wanted to now when everyone was drinking it.
Gabby replied September 20, 2008 10:37 AM [-]
I have been drinking it with my dinner. Mostly because I can't drink it alone. It makes me sweat too much! LOL
I was going to try it with my lunch also, but decided not to do that. One 4oz glass is enough for me.
Glad you joined us, keep posting the results you get.
Sheryl replied September 20, 2008 1:09 PM [-]
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Welcome ilvtony20. I am drinking mine with my dinner as like Gabby I cannot just drink wine. It seems to blend better with food. However if drinking it after dinner works for you should be nothing wrong with that.
It is wonderful that your readings are down. Something about the 'red' in the wine that is almost a wonder drug! If you were to read the articles on the red wine and diabetes I think you will agree this is one thing we can for ourselves and feel good about it.
My original post was quoting the book I read and it said 1/2 glass was enough. Seems to work and good for your heart.
Keep us posted, it's very exciting to see people get good results with something so simple, who would have thought!
caspersmamacaspersmama replied September 20, 2008 1:49 PM [+]caspersmama replied September 20, 2008 1:49 PM [-]
I also read that the redder the better so i looked for the darkness merlot bottle I saw. I had not bought wine in years because I thought it was bad for diabetics. Plus the Sutter Home was not expensive. My bottle was 6.99. But had to buy a wine opener too. LOL
SherylSheryl replied October 3, 2008 1:01 PM [-]
Gabby, you haven't posted in here lately and wondering how your doing? Is everything still working good with the wine?
I must report that I have gotten lazy about the wine cause I bought a bottle I could not stand..So my numbers have not improved even taking the Metformin. Been taking the Metformin for 2 weeks and not sure if it's working at all. Perhaps because it's only 500mg twice a day but I had such high hopes for it.
Want to see if by starting the wine again if the difference again. If so then why do I need to take Metformin!!!!
Anyway, will let you know in a couple of days.
Hope everyone is doing well!
Gabby replied October 3, 2008 4:45 PM [-]
Hi Sheryl,
I am doing pretty good. I have had a few days where my numbers have been below 200 pretty consistantly. Not way below, but the trend is there. It has been a high carb week, and to keep numbers in 170-190 I am very happy. I am still drinking the wine. I just buy the same one each week. That way there is no guessing. John also posted a cucumber and lemon juice drink that did a great job for me. I went from 227 to 179! wow, that was news.
Goddess replied October 3, 2008 4:53 PM [-]
What brand of wine are you drinking?
Sheryl replied October 3, 2008 6:01 PM [-]
Where was that drink posted at? Might be worth a try...
Glad your numbers are remaining low.
This crappy disease is tough. Now with winter coming up and all the comfort foods....Ahhhh.
Take care
Gabby replied October 3, 2008 7:12 PM [-]
I hear you there. I am very afraid of the winter and all the winter foods...tht is where I fall down. I am hoping I can make it. I know being my first winter, it will teach me a lot.
The cucumber drink is:
http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/955?last_viewe...
KDroberts suggested some alternatives as well that would help keep my sugars from rising. I am getting good reads. If you go to "Exercise and Diet" you will see how I am doing in a more detailed way. Exercise has helped me a lot, I am sure.
momma_havensmomma_havens replied November 3, 2008 3:27 PM [+]momma_havens replied November 3, 2008 3:27 PM [-]
you know i have been hearing alot of good things about drinking a glass of red wine per day,,,i think i will start and i will get back to you
caspersmamacaspersmama replied November 3, 2008 8:00 PM [+]caspersmama replied November 3, 2008 8:00 PM [-]
I do not drink a full glass, I just drink 1/2 wine glass full. It came out to 1/2 cup for my glass.
caspersmamacaspersmama replied November 4, 2008 1:17 AM [+]caspersmama replied November 4, 2008 1:17 AM [-]
I get the Sutter Home Merlot. It is really tasty.
SparrowSparrow replied November 22, 2008 7:59 PM [-]
I haven't read ALL the comments, so someone may have mentioned this already. If so, I apologize.
If you're NOT a wine drinker, you might try "resveratol". This is a dietary suppliment that is derived from red wine. A lot of studies (including Harvard studies) have determined a lot of health benefits from this... all the ones that are touted for drinking red wine.
sara
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I just want to say that I read a book called "Diabetes the First Year" and in that book it said if you are not on insulin that a 1/2 glass of red wine with your meal will keep your blood glucose down.
I'm not a wine drinker but went a bought a bottle of Merlot and have been drinking a 1/2 glass with dinner and getting wonderful results.
Case in point, I ate Chinese Chow Mein (noodles) and Fried Prawns for dinner last night and my BG was 81..never been this low after a meal, always in the mid to high 100's. I am so pleased with my results and just have to share with everyone.